Stephen Korsman
2006-07-19 18:48:36 UTC
This subject surfaced in a discussion in this board, so I decided to
make some research about it. Here's my findings.
THE MORAL AND CERIMONIAL LAWS
(Some Bible references I'm giving the portuguese name, as I dunno the
english translation. Sorry for any incovenience. Any questions,
forward them to me).
1. What title of distinction is given to God's Law?
S. Tiago 2:8, 9
2. By what comes the aknowledgment of sin?
Rom. 7:7 (And also notice that the example law given there is from the
10 commandments)
3. By what reason shall Men finally be judged?
Eclesiastes 12:13, 14; S. Tiago 2:12
The law that is here called the 'law of liberty' is the one that says
"You shall not kill" and "You shall not commit adultery" because those
were the commandments quoted in the previous verse. That same law is
called (v. 8) 'Lei RĂ©gia' [something like kingly law or regia law in
english], that is, the king's law. That is the one by wich man shall
be judged.
4. What system was established in virtue to the transgression of the
God's Law by Men?
The sacrifice system, with its rituals and cerimonies, pointing Jesus.
5. Why did Job offered holocausts?
Job 1:4-5
6. Since when was that sacrifice system known?
Heb. 11:4 See also Gen. 4:3-5; 8:20; Job 1:4-5
7. By whom was proclaimed the law of the 10 commandments?
Deut. 4:12-13 (By God)
8. How was the cerimonial law transmited to Israel?
Lev. 1:1-2, 7:37-38
9. Were the 10 commandments, by themselves, a distinct and complete
law?
Deut. 5:22; Ex. 24:12 (Yes, they were)
10. Was the cerimonial law complete in it self?
Ef. 2:15 (No, they were given in ordinances)
11. In what did God wrote the 10 commandments?
Deut. 4:13 (stone = eternity, stability)
12. In what was written the laws or commandments refering to
sacrifices and holocausts?
II Chron. 35:12
13. Where were placed the 10 commandments?
Ex. 40:20 (Inside the alliance ark)
14. Where did Moses ordered the levites to place the book of the law
that he wrote?
Deut. 31:25-26 (outside, at its side)
15. What is the moral law's nature?
Psalms 19:7; Rom 7:14 (perfect, spiritual, .)
16. Could the offers ordained by the cerimonial law satisfy or make
perfect the believer's consience?
Heb.9:9 (No, it can't)
17. Until when the cerimonial law imposed that the service should be
realized in the earth sanctuary?
Heb. 9:10
18. When was that reformation time?
Heb. 9:11-12 (Christ)
19. What effect in the cerimonial law did Christ's death have?
Col. 2:14; Ef. 2:15 (Canceled, abolished)
20. Why was the cerimonial law abolished?
Heb. 7:18-19
21. What miracle ocurred in the occasion of Christ's death, signifying
that the sacrifice system was finished forever?
S. Mat. 27:50-51
22. In what words did Daniel prophetized this?
Dan. 9:27
23. For how much time the moral law will last?
Psalms 119:152; 111:7-8 (FOREVER)
Yet the 10 commandments are part of the Law of Moses. They were part of themake some research about it. Here's my findings.
THE MORAL AND CERIMONIAL LAWS
(Some Bible references I'm giving the portuguese name, as I dunno the
english translation. Sorry for any incovenience. Any questions,
forward them to me).
1. What title of distinction is given to God's Law?
S. Tiago 2:8, 9
2. By what comes the aknowledgment of sin?
Rom. 7:7 (And also notice that the example law given there is from the
10 commandments)
3. By what reason shall Men finally be judged?
Eclesiastes 12:13, 14; S. Tiago 2:12
The law that is here called the 'law of liberty' is the one that says
"You shall not kill" and "You shall not commit adultery" because those
were the commandments quoted in the previous verse. That same law is
called (v. 8) 'Lei RĂ©gia' [something like kingly law or regia law in
english], that is, the king's law. That is the one by wich man shall
be judged.
4. What system was established in virtue to the transgression of the
God's Law by Men?
The sacrifice system, with its rituals and cerimonies, pointing Jesus.
5. Why did Job offered holocausts?
Job 1:4-5
6. Since when was that sacrifice system known?
Heb. 11:4 See also Gen. 4:3-5; 8:20; Job 1:4-5
7. By whom was proclaimed the law of the 10 commandments?
Deut. 4:12-13 (By God)
8. How was the cerimonial law transmited to Israel?
Lev. 1:1-2, 7:37-38
9. Were the 10 commandments, by themselves, a distinct and complete
law?
Deut. 5:22; Ex. 24:12 (Yes, they were)
10. Was the cerimonial law complete in it self?
Ef. 2:15 (No, they were given in ordinances)
11. In what did God wrote the 10 commandments?
Deut. 4:13 (stone = eternity, stability)
12. In what was written the laws or commandments refering to
sacrifices and holocausts?
II Chron. 35:12
13. Where were placed the 10 commandments?
Ex. 40:20 (Inside the alliance ark)
14. Where did Moses ordered the levites to place the book of the law
that he wrote?
Deut. 31:25-26 (outside, at its side)
15. What is the moral law's nature?
Psalms 19:7; Rom 7:14 (perfect, spiritual, .)
16. Could the offers ordained by the cerimonial law satisfy or make
perfect the believer's consience?
Heb.9:9 (No, it can't)
17. Until when the cerimonial law imposed that the service should be
realized in the earth sanctuary?
Heb. 9:10
18. When was that reformation time?
Heb. 9:11-12 (Christ)
19. What effect in the cerimonial law did Christ's death have?
Col. 2:14; Ef. 2:15 (Canceled, abolished)
20. Why was the cerimonial law abolished?
Heb. 7:18-19
21. What miracle ocurred in the occasion of Christ's death, signifying
that the sacrifice system was finished forever?
S. Mat. 27:50-51
22. In what words did Daniel prophetized this?
Dan. 9:27
23. For how much time the moral law will last?
Psalms 119:152; 111:7-8 (FOREVER)
Old Covenant. How can they be part of the Old Covenant, yet remain in
effect as a legal code when the Old Covenant is no longer in effect?
Exo 34:28 KJV And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights;
he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And he wrote upon the tables the
words of the covenant, the ten commandments.
Furthermore, what law was written on tablets of stone? And why does 2 Cor 3
say that it has been replaced with a law of greater glory?
2 Corinthians 3:3-14 KJV
(3) Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ
ministered by us, written not with ink, but with the Spirit of the living
God; not in tables of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart.
(4) And such trust have we through Christ to God-ward:
(5) Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of
ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
(6) Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the
letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth
life.
(7) But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was
glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the
face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done
away:
(8) How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
(9) For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the
ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
(10) For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by
reason of the glory that excelleth.
(11) For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which
remaineth is glorious.
(12) Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
(13) And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of
Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
(14) But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same
vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done
away in Christ.
"But it's not just the ceremonial laws that were set aside. 2 Cor 3:7-14
says it was the laws written on stone, the Ten Commandments, that were also
part of the Old Covenant. Romans 7:7-8 specifically says that the Ninth and
Tenth Commandments were the very laws that condemned Paul in sin, from which
he needed to be released. Gal 3:10-12 says that if you put yourself under
the law of the Old Covenant, they you are required to obey all its provision
without fault, otherwise the Law will condemn you. It is the whole Law, as
an active covenant, that is set aside, because as a legal entity the Law's
first action was to condemn men in sin. The Catechism says as much (Para
1963, 780, 580). The legal status of the Law had to be removed so that it
would not condemn us in sin, but its ethical provisions, that is, the "good
and holy" laws is contained, were then transferred to the New Covenant and
made even better than they were before." -
http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/dialogs/pastoral/ccc-heresy3.htm
"The OT Scriptures are "profitable" because they continue to give us ethical
principles to live by. For example, in 1 Cor 9:9 Paul quotes from Deut 25:4:
"Thou shalt not muzzle the ox." Even though Paul in other places says that
the Old Covenant is "a ministry of death engraved on stone tablets" (2 Cor
3:7), he can still extract ethical principles from the Old Covenant, and he
can do so because those ethical principles are based on God's eternal laws.
By the same token, Paul assures us that the Old Covenant, as a LEGAL entity
that enforce those laws, has been abrogated. If it was still in force, then
it would be a "ministry of death," because it is the Old Covenant law which
condemned people in sin. The problem in Paul's day was that the Jews wanted
to keep the Old Covenant as their legal covenant. That is why Paul warned
them that, if they did, they would then have to come under the legal
condemnation of the Old Covenant (Gal 3:10; 5:1-4). There are two sides to
this coin: (1) the Old Covenant still gives us ethical principles, and (2)
the Old Covenant, from a legal perspective, has been abrogated. The teaching
and enforcing of its ethical principles are carried out only in the New
Covenant today." - http://www.catholicintl.com/qa/answer_critics.htm
See http://www.bible.ca/7-2laws.htm - it shows that the 2-law distinction of
Adventism is not biblical. Adventism differentiates between statutes /
judgements on the one hand, calling the ceremonial law, and commandments on
the other hand, calling them moral law.
Yet no such distinction exists in the Bible.
This comes from preconceived notions about the law, thinking it is divided
up into commandments and ordinanances etc. Yet the 10 commandments are also
called ordinances, and the Mosaic law is referred to as commandments.
Lev 27:34 KJV These are the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses
for the children of Israel in mount Sinai.
This refers to the law of Moses.
Deu 5:1 KJV And Moses called all Israel, and said unto them, Hear, O
Israel, the statutes and judgments which I speak in your ears this day, that
ye may learn them, and keep, and do them.
This is right before the 10 Commandments.
Eze 20:18-21 KJV But I said unto their children in the wilderness, Walk ye
not in the statutes of your fathers, neither observe their judgments, nor
defile yourselves with their idols: (19) I am the LORD your God; walk in
my statutes, and keep my judgments, and do them; (20) And hallow my
sabbaths; and they shall be a sign between me and you, that ye may know that
I am the LORD your God. (21) Notwithstanding the children rebelled against
me: they walked not in my statutes, neither kept my judgments to do them,
which if a man do, he shall even live in them; they polluted my sabbaths:
then I said, I would pour out my fury upon them, to accomplish my anger
against them in the wilderness.
The Sabbath is an ordinance?
Lev 19:37 KJV Therefore shall ye observe all my statutes, and all my
judgments, and do them: I am the LORD.
Includes commands from the 10 Commandments AND the rest, lumping them all
together into statutes and judgements.
Deu 6:24-25 KJV And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear
the LORD our God, for our good always, that he might preserve us alive, as
it is at this day. (25) And it shall be our righteousness, if we observe
to do all these commandments before the LORD our God, as he hath commanded
us.
"These commandments" are "these statutes" and God commanded them.
God bless,
Stephen
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Stephen Korsman
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