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Chapter 78: The animal origins of non-white people
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Chapter 78: The animal origins of non-white people

The idea that certain races of non-white people are derived from mating
between animals and humans won’t go down well in today’s society. Never
mind that it’s rubbish. Which is one reason why you won’t hear it taught
from Adventist pulpits, or hear it preached in the prophecy seminars
(“Revelation Seminars”) that one later discovers to be Adventist-run.

This was written by Ellen White (no pun intended on her name) – the
Adventist prophetess, whose inspiration is of the same degree as the
inspiration of the Bible (“We do not believe that the quality or degree
of inspiration in the writings of Ellen White is different from that of
Scripture.” - Ellen White Estate)

Ellen’s statements:

"But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction
of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man
and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere."
– Ellen White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 64.

"Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the
ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the
result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood
there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the
almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of
men."
– Ellen White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 75.

Although modern Adventists try to deny that she taught this, it was
taught during her time by others, and her teaching was defended by some
of her contemporaries, such as Uriah Smith, with her knowledge. Her
husband even gave Smith’s book a glowing review:

"The Association has just published a pamphlet entitled, “The Visions of
Mrs. E.G. White, A Manifestation of Spiritual Gifts According to the
Scriptures.” It is written by the editor of the Review. While carefully
reading the manuscript, I felt grateful to God that our people could
have this able defense of those views they so much love and prize, which
others despise and oppose."
– James White, Review, Aug. 15, 1868.

Contemporaneous teachings:

"…that crosses between men and animals had created a no-man’s-land
between man and beast, populated by gorillas, chimpanzees, wild bushmen
of Africa, Patagonians, and Hottentots."
– Gordon Shigley, “Amalgamation of Man and Beast: What Did Ellen White
Mean?”, Spectrum, vol. 12, no. 4, p. 13.

Uriah Smith’s defence quotes Ellen, then defends calling these races
human beings, even though certain races visibly prove Ellen right:

"“Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may
be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in
certain races of men.” This view was given for the purpose of
illustrating the deep corruption and crime into which the race fell,
even within a few years after the flood that signal manifestation of
God’s wrath against human wickedness. There was amalgamation; and the
effect is still visible “in certain races of men.” Mark, those excepting
the animals upon whom the effects of this work are visible, are called
by the vision, “men.” Now we have ever supposed that anybody that was
called a man, was considered a human being. The vision speaks of all
these classes as races of men; yet in the face of this plain
declaration, they foolishly assert that the visions teach that some men
are not human beings! But does any one deny the general statement
contained in the extract given above? They do not. If they did, they
could easily be silenced by a reference to such cases as the wild
Bushmen of Africa, some tribes of the Hottentots, and perhaps the Digger
Indians of our own country, &c. Moreover, naturalists affirm that the
line of demarkation between the human and animal races is lost in
confusion. It is impossible, as they affirm, to tell just where the
human ends and the animal begins. Can we suppose that this was so
ordained of God in the beginning? Rather has not sin marred the
boundaries of these two kingdoms? "
– Uriah Smith, The Visions of Mrs. E. G. White, A Manifestation of
Spiritual gifts According to the Scripture, pp. 103-4

Adventism has offered all sorts of ideas that this could refer to –
genetic engineering (before and since the flood, before the 20th/21st
centuries), interracial marriage (enough of those in the Bible, e.g.
Moses, to know that it’s okay) or marriage between godly and ungodly
people (how does that alter a race, and where do the animals come in?) –
but the evidence is against these excuses.

Sad. But truly good that these inspired words of Ellen White are not
taken seriously by her followers. Either God inspired racist teaching,
or Ellen is not inspired.
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2016-09-14 18:46:15 UTC
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Chapter 78: The animal origins of non-white people
The idea that certain races of non-white people are derived from mating
between animals and humans won’t go down well in today’s society. Never
mind that it’s rubbish. Which is one reason why you won’t hear it taught
from Adventist pulpits, or hear it preached in the prophecy seminars
(“Revelation Seminars”) that one later discovers to be Adventist-run.
This was written by Ellen White (no pun intended on her name) –
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Adventist prophetess, whose inspiration is of the same degree as the
inspiration of the Bible (“We do not believe that the quality or degree
of inspiration in the writings of Ellen White is different from that of
Scripture.” - Ellen White Estate)
"But if there was one sin above another which called for the destruction
of the race by the flood, it was the base crime of amalgamation of man
and beast which defaced the image of God, and caused confusion everywhere."
– Ellen White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 64.
"Every species of animal which God had created were preserved in the
ark. The confused species which God did not create, which were the
result of amalgamation, were destroyed by the flood. Since the flood
there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may be seen in the
almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in certain races of
men."
– Ellen White, Spiritual Gifts, Vol. 3, p. 75.
Although modern Adventists try to deny that she taught this, it was
taught during her time by others, and her teaching was defended by some
of her contemporaries, such as Uriah Smith, with her knowledge. Her
"The Association has just published a pamphlet entitled, “The Visions of
Mrs. E.G. White, A Manifestation of Spiritual Gifts According to the
Scriptures.” It is written by the editor of the Review. While carefully
reading the manuscript, I felt grateful to God that our people could
have this able defense of those views they so much love and prize, which
others despise and oppose."
– James White, Review, Aug. 15, 1868.
"
that crosses between men and animals had created a no-man’s-land
between man and beast, populated by gorillas, chimpanzees, wild bushmen
of Africa, Patagonians, and Hottentots."
– Gordon Shigley, “Amalgamation of Man and Beast: What Did Ellen White
Mean?”, Spectrum, vol. 12, no. 4, p. 13.
Uriah Smith’s defence quotes Ellen, then defends calling these races
"“Since the flood there has been amalgamation of man and beast, as may
be seen in the almost endless varieties of species of animals, and in
certain races of men.” This view was given for the purpose of
illustrating the deep corruption and crime into which the race fell,
even within a few years after the flood that signal manifestation of
God’s wrath against human wickedness. There was amalgamation; and the
effect is still visible “in certain races of men.” Mark, those excepting
the animals upon whom the effects of this work are visible, are called
by the vision, “men.” Now we have ever supposed that anybody that was
called a man, was considered a human being. The vision speaks of all
these classes as races of men; yet in the face of this plain
declaration, they foolishly assert that the visions teach that some men
are not human beings! But does any one deny the general statement
contained in the extract given above? They do not. If they did, they
could easily be silenced by a reference to such cases as the wild
Bushmen of Africa, some tribes of the Hottentots, and perhaps the Digger
Indians of our own country, &c. Moreover, naturalists affirm that the
line of demarkation between the human and animal races is lost in
confusion. It is impossible, as they affirm, to tell just where the
human ends and the animal begins. Can we suppose that this was so
ordained of God in the beginning? Rather has not sin marred the
boundaries of these two kingdoms? "
– Uriah Smith, The Visions of Mrs. E. G. White, A Manifestation of
Spiritual gifts According to the Scripture, pp. 103-4
Adventism has offered all sorts of ideas that this could refer to –
genetic engineering (before and since the flood, before the 20th/21st
centuries), interracial marriage (enough of those in the Bible, e.g.
Moses, to know that it’s okay) or marriage between godly and ungodly
people (how does that alter a race, and where do the animals come in?) –
but the evidence is against these excuses.
Sad. But truly good that these inspired words of Ellen White are not
taken seriously by her followers. Either God inspired racist teaching,
or Ellen is not inspired.
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